Avis: Yamaha MG10XU, Le MG-série obtient plus de Goodies

Yamaha updates their MG-Series mixers, but do they offer enough features to stand out in a crowd? Matt Loel T Hepworth finds out.  

null Il ya plusieurs années, il semblait que les mélangeurs compacts étaient à la mode. Chaque grand fabricant audio pro (et la moitié des petits) ont commencé à débiter des différents modèles avec des caractéristiques différentes. Ainsi, alors qu'il n'y avait pas un manque de choix, ma question était: Y at-il vraiment fait ça?

Yamaha était un peu tard pour le jeu, mais peut-être que leur a donné le temps de bien faire les choses. Lorsque les mélangeurs originales série MG ont été introduits, ils étaient un succès immédiat. Beaucoup de consommateurs nécessaires pour remplacer theirhow-je sayless de mélangeurs fiables d'une conception peu disponible avec quelque chose qui sonnait mieux et a été construit pour durer, et le MG-série correspondent certainement le projet de loi.

Maintenant dans sa troisième génération, les nouvelles consoles MG-série offrent de nouvelles fonctionnalités et encore plus l'utilité. À première vue, il semble y avoir dix modèles différents, mais il est plus facile de penser à la série que cinq modèles différents, chacun avec un double. La désignation XU à la fin du numéro de modèle indique effets numériques intégrés et la connectivité USB. (Le MG06X, le plus petit de la bande, a des effets, mais pas de port USB.) Par exemple, Ill examinera la MG10XU , qui a 10-entrées, les effets et USB, tandis que le MG10 est le modèle analogique standard sans effets ou USB.

Figure-1.png The Yamaha MG10XU mixer, top view.

Le mélangeur Yamaha MG10XU, vue de dessus.

Quoi de neuf?

Pour moi, la plus grande amélioration est l'ajout de la D-PRE Class-A préampli micro. C'est le même préampli youll trouver sur les UR et interfaces audio Steinberg MR-série (Steinberg est la propriété de Yamaha), et a gagné la réputation d'être un préampli de sondage très musical avec un faible bruit et des charges de gain. Si c'était tout Yamaha ajouté à la MG, ce serait suffisant pour moi.

Une autre nouveauté est la connectivité bidirectionnelle USB (sur certains modèles XU), qui prévoient l'enregistrement 2 canaux et la capacité de lecture à des ordinateurs ou l'iPhone d'Apple et iPad. (Apple Kit de connexion d'appareil photo requis.) Il ya plusieurs grandes applications d'enregistrement bon marché pour l'iPad, et vous devriez vérifier Yamaha $ 1,99 Couverture Recorder pour l'enregistrement, l'édition et télécharger directement sur SoundCloud. Vous y découvrez également un code dans la boîte avec laquelle pour télécharger une copie gratuite de Steinberg Cubase AI pour Mac et PC. L'interface USB permet l'enregistrement 24 bits avec jusqu'à un remarquable 192 fréquence d'échantillonnage kHz.

Caractéristiques générales

Le MG-série est disponible en 6 -, 10 -, 12 -, 16 - et 20-entrée configurations. Les modèles plus grands ont faders de voie et blocs d'alimentation universels, tandis que les petits modèles ont des boutons et des adaptateurs. Les 16 - 20 et les modèles d'intrants sont livrés avec des équerres, qui sont en option sur le modèle 12 entrées. Le MG10XU a 4-XLR/TRS/TS entrées mono avec alimentation fantôme, pad 26 dB et 80 commutateurs de filtre Hz, égaliseur 3 bandes avec 100 Hz, 2,5 kHz, et 10 kHz des fréquences fixes, et les entrées 1 et 2 également très compression simple et efficace d'un bouton.

Les six autres entrées sont configurées comme trois paires stéréo, trois entrées mono, ou dans des combinaisons de ceux-ci. Theyre tout-10dB asymétriques 1/4 de connecteurs et entrées 5/6 et 7/8 ont également des connecteurs RCA. Entrées 9/10 peuvent accepter signal des connecteurs 1/4, ou l'entrée USB pour le contrôle via un bouton sur le panneau avant. Étagères EQ à 100 Hz et 10 kHz est également disponible.

Toutes les entrées ont un FX envoyer à SPX processeur d'effets numériques intégré. Le MG10XU dispose de 24 effets différents dont reverb, delay, modulation, et d'autres effets spéciaux, et sont acheminés vers le canal de retour d'effet interne. Chaque effet peut être légèrement programmée avec la commande de paramètre, et n'oubliez pas de cliquer sur (appuyez sur) le bouton du programme au moment de choisir un effet différent. Les effets peuvent être activés / désactivés, soit avec un bouton au-dessus du bouton de retour, ou par un commutateur au pied en option. Theres également un FX de connecteur d'envoi de matériel qui contourne le haut-effets, mais youd besoin d'utiliser les canaux d'entrée pour retourner un processeur d'effet externe à la voie de signal.

Il ya trois sections de sortie: Stereo Out, la sortie de moniteur et un téléphone. La stéréo a un bouton de volume indépendant avec XLR ou 1/4 de équilibrées 4 connecteurs dB, tandis que la sortie de moniteur a un quart équilibrés 4 connecteurs dB seulement, et le bouton de Surveillance contrôle également le niveau de la sortie casque simples.

Comment ça sonne

Pour une comparaison équitable, j'ai utilisé un séparateur micro pour enregistrer différents instruments à la fois dans la MG10XU et un Behringer Xenyx 1202FX, que j'ai ensuite connecté à un ordinateur via les 1/4 de sorties symétriques et enregistré les résultats. La Yamaha simplement sonnait mieux. Ce n'est pas que le Behringer sonnait mal, c'est juste que la Yamaha semblait plus riche, plus propre et produit plus de nuances. Im qui est sûre en partie à cause des préamplis micro D-PRE, mais je soupçonne également la Yamaha a un chemin de signal plus robuste. Certes, la Behringerwhile ne pas avoir autant de featuresis beaucoup moins cher que le Yamaha, mais youd s'attendre à obtenir de meilleurs résultats à partir d'un investissement plus important. Les effets SPX Yamaha sonnent aussi grande et bénéficient de plusieurs décennies de recherche et de développement DSP.

Qui son pour

Une caractéristique unique de 6 - et 10-entrée consoles MG est le BMS-10A adaptateur de pied de micro en option, ce qui rend ces petits agitateurs parfait pour les artistes vivants ou petits ensembles en gardant l'accès mélangeur à portée de main.

Figure-2.png The MG10XU on a mic stand with the optional BMS-10A.

Le MG10XU sur un pied de micro avec le BMS-10A en option.

Alors que vous n'avez pas un bus AUX dédié pour le suivi, la plupart des gens vont faire tout aussi bien en utilisant le Monitor Out pour in-ear monitors ou de repli. Les effets intégrés sont parfaits pour les artistes vivants, et les sorties XLR ou 1/4 permettent une connectivité à toute console de son maison ou système de son. Les compresseurs sur les entrées 1 et 2 font un excellent travail d'ajouter rapidement un peu de contrôle dynamique pour les micros ou instruments. Avec un choix de XLR / 1/4 et des connecteurs RCA, youll ont beaucoup d'options d'entrée. Être en mesure de contourner les effets d'un commutateur au pied en option est vraiment sympathique, aussi.

Le port USB permet la MG10XU grand pour l'enregistrement petit studio de projet. Et si vous ne possédez pas un programme DAW, il suffit de télécharger Cubase AI gratuitement. 2-in et 2-out est suffisant pour la plupart des chanteurs / compositeurs, et le suivi USB souple est idéal pour la diffusion en direct sur Internet. Vous pouvez même atténuer le niveau de lecture de l'ordinateur en cliquant sur le bouton Program cinq fois, puis tournez régler le niveau désiré. Et reliant la MG10XU à un iPhone ou iPad vous donnera encore plus éloignés des capacités d'enregistrement.

Pour les gens qui ont juste besoin d'une petite table de mixage sans toutes les cloches et de sifflets, mais encore exigent un son de haute qualité et l'utilité, la MG10 norme serait un excellent endroit pour commencer. Vous aurez aussi économiser 50,00 $ par effets et USB qui précède.

Conclusions

Il ya quelques choses que je n'aime pas à propos de la MG10XU. Par exemple, alors que le châssis est en métal, les côtés sont en plastique. Cela réduit le poids et le coût, mais peut être un obstacle à la durabilité. J'ai aussi m'attendais à un câble USB dans la boîte, mais ce n'est pas inclus. (Comme je n'ai pas les câbles USB supplémentaires.) Je souhaite également 1/4 entrées sur les canaux 5-10 avaient connecteurs TRS et commutables -10/4 niveaux, mais des thats attendons beaucoup de toute petite table de mixage. L'adaptateur secteur est un gros morceau de la ligne, mais les bonnes mélangeurs de sondage nécessite plus de tension que leurs homologues moins, si vous êtes la négociation taille compacte pour une meilleure qualité sonore.

Même avec ces quelques petits inconvénients, la MG10XU est un, grand mélangeur extrêmement polyvalent de sondage. Si vous êtes un artiste de scène, un passionné d'enregistrement, simplement besoin de plus d'entrées, ou tout ce qui précède, la MG10XU offre beaucoup de valeur. Et si vous avez besoin de plus / moins d'intrants, ou plus / moins de fonctionnalités, l'ampleur des mélangeurs série MG signifie vous pourrez admirer probablement exactement ce que je recherche au prix qui correspond à ce projet de loi.

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Discussion

Dan
Hey there -

I'm looking to upgrade from the MG06X to the MG10XU, mainly for the USB connectivity. The mixer I currently have is perfectly fine for most intents and purposes (I use it to hook up my studio monitors, listen to my computer audio and turntable. Problem I ran into is that even though the in-out port on my laptop SAYS it is in-out, that's only the case with a headset.

Anyway, to the real question: I read a review where someone complained that it's not possible to record individual outs, and that you only get a stereo mix. Do you happen to know if this is the case? I'm looking for something to hold me out for the next 5 or so years. Is the ability to split audio REALLY that big of a deal outside of a true studio setting?
MattLTH
Yes, the MG10XU cannot record individual input channels directly to the USB ports. The best way to think of this mixers USB port is as a stereo output. If that feature is important to you (as it is to many musicians, engineers, and producers), this may not be the best mixer for your needs. For example, if you wanted to record a drum set with 4 microphones, with each mic onto its own track in your DAW software, the MG10XU--like many small mixers--doesn't have that capability.

To record individual channels on discrete tracks, you may want to keep the mixer you have, but enhance the recording/playback capability with a dedicated multi-channel audio interface. You could also replace your current mixer with a model that can record multiple individual input channels to USB, though such a mixer would cost more money.

~MattLTH
Stu Hughes
I have recently bought one of these and I am struggling to find the best fx to use for live Vocals I am not really a fan of delay. Also if I want to record myself on cubase will it only record as one whole mix. Thank you in advance.
MattLTH
Hi Stu,

The effects that folks put on their vocals is wide and varied. For some, a splash of plate reverb is all they need. For others with a more avant-garde esthetic, distortion, gated reverbs, and phasers are common choices. So it really depends on what you’d like to hear on your voice. I’d recommend trying a reverb, then use the parameter control to shorten or lengthen the reverb time to your liking.

As far as using it with a computer, it’s important that the red button above the Input 9/10 level control is in the ‘up’ position. That will allow you to monitor the previously recorded tracks, while only sending the signals from Inputs 1-8 to the computers recording inputs (via USB.)

I hope that helps,

MattLTH
Stu Hughes
Thanks Matt. If I record out to my laptop though from the mixer will it record as one whole track or will the vocal be separated from the track. Sorry for my novice questions.
Stu
MattLTH
The computer will always record all the inputs of the mixer simultaneously, and all mixed together as a stereo mix. However, the little red button I mentioned in the last post will prevent the playback from the computer from being recorded into the mix again. So if you want your vocals recorded onto a discrete track, make sure every Level knob is turned down to '0', except the one into which you've plugged your vocal microphone, and make sure that red monitor button is in the up position.

MattLTH
Sean
Hi Matt. Apologies for my naivety with this question... With the usb connectivity, does this mixer double up as an audio interface?

Sean
MattLTH
Yes, it does. I speak to that in the second paragraph of the 'What's New' sections, and at other various times during the review.

MattLTH
MattLTH
Bear in mind that it's a 2-in, 2-out audio interface, so you can't send each individual channel to its own discrete track in Cubase AI (the software it comes with as a free download), or any other DAW app. Basically, what it sends to the computer is identical to what is sent to the Stereo Out bus. That might be enough for some users, but folks who want one or more inputs sent to individual discrete tracks will need to invest in a mixer that has that capability, which will also increase the cost.
Stu Hughes
Me again sorry. I have just purchased a little yamaha msr100 to use as a monitor. I only have 1x1/4 jack to male xlr cables will the monitor out still work ok just coming out of one channel.
Cheers
MattLTH
So long as you pan all the channels properly, it should work. So if you're using the left monitor output, pan all the channels (including the stereo channels) hard left. If you're using the right monitor output, pan all the channels hard right.

MattLTH
Stu Hughes
It's for live use so I can't pan channel really. Double quarter jack to xlr is not a common lead to buy. I'm a bit confused but thats not hard to do.
MattLTH
Well, try this: leave all of the mono channels panned center, then if you're using the left monitor out, pan all of the stereo channels to the left. If you're using the right mono out, pan all the stereo channels to the right. That should work and not require you to use any adapters.

MattLTH
James K
Hey MattLTH,
I'm pretty new to the audio engineering game and learning as I go. I've been looking hard at mixers and recently ordered this one to be delivered soon. As I'm continuing to learn the details of how I'll be using various pieces of equipment, I am wondering whether this mixer will allow me to set up mix -4 Skype calls for my podcast. I am hoping to do interviews long distance, using Skype and my set up. From your review and further research, I am unsure as to whether this mixer has the auxiliary outputs I need to send back all audio minus the Skype callers voice to the caller.

Can you lend me your insight as to whether I'll be able to operate mix minus Skype calls with this mixer?

Thanks in advance for your time.

James.
MattLTH
Hi James,

I've never used the MG-series mixer in the configuration you've described. However, it might be possible to accomplish your task with the MG. While this particular mixer doesn't have an AUX send, it does have an effects (FX) send with a physical mono 1/4" output jack. Bear in mind that while AUX sends are pre-fader (unaffected by the position of the Level control), the FX sends are post-fader. Therefore, you'd need to leave the Level control turned up for that channel to send signal to the FX Send output.

If I've missed the point, let me know and I'll try to provide further information.

MattLTH
Horace
What kind of amplifier can used for this MG series ?
MattLTH
With the possible exceptions of a few rare and exotic tube hi-fi designs, any power amp will do. For PA systems, Yamaha make the P2500S, P3500S, and P7000S. However, you don't have to use a Yamaha amp, so you may want to look at the offerings of QSC, Crown, Peavey, and Crest Audio to name just a few. But if you need an amp for studio monitors for recording, many power amps have built-in fans that would be too loud and distracting. For recording purposes, make sure the amp you're looking at is passively (convection) cooled rather than equipped with a fan. Rolls offers several models without fans, but you could also look for a used Alesis RA-100 or Peavey CS200X.
Gman
Hi Matt great write up. I recently purchased for home page and recording my question is we are doing in ear monitoring and I want to come off the mixer monitor chanel into my headphones mixer so the musicians can hear eachother in the headphone mix. What I don't want is the instruments to play through the pa speakers only the monitor channel. Can this mixer do that ?
MattLTH
Hi Gman,

Unfortunately, the MG10XU isn't fully able to provide the function you need. The problem is that the FX control and FX Send output jack are post-fader, which means that the corresponding channel would have to be turned up for the corresponding FX knob to send signal out.

However, Channel 9/10 can be assigned to either the monitor output or the stereo output. Depending on how many instruments you needed channels for, you could plug one mono (or one stereo) instrument into that channel and assign it to only the monitor output. You could also add a small mixer into which you plug the instruments, then plug the output of that mixer into Channel 9/10 and have it assigned to the monitor output.

If you wanted a more highly configurable monitor mix, what you would need is a mixer with pre-fader AUX sends. The least expensive MG-series mixer with one pre-fader AUX send is the MG12 (MG12XU), and the MG16 (MG16XU) has 2 pre-fader AUX Sends, which would allow you to configure two discrete headphone mixes.

MattLTH
Sovathna Mg10xu
Now I have a problem relate with the power fault as I confuse to hold up the 220v in my country as that is 120v and now the logic board if fault. Can you guide me where should I order the part.. Please help me out....
MattLTH
Hi Sovathna,

I'm sorry to hear you have a problem with your mixer. I looked at the power supply that came with my MG10XU and it is 110 Volts for distribution in the United States of America. Sometimes (but not every time) Yamaha includes a power supply that will operate under either 110 or 220 volts / 50 or 60 Hz, but that is apparently not the case with this product. It's possible that using an AC adapter with the wrong voltage and frequency could damage the mixer, but it's also possible that the power supply was damaged and that the mixer was spared from damage. If you can find a proper power supply, I'd try that first. Otherwise, go to www.yamaha.com, choose the country in which you live, then look at their support options. (I'd send you the direct link, but I don't know where you live.)

I hope that helps,

MattLTH
Akhauri pritish
Hi
After reading so many review I purchased the Yamaha mg10xu audio mixer.

But too much of disappointment

I am not able to record the output of mix on my computer.

I can listen to computer playback which is coming out of mixer but not able to record anything. Same proble is being faced by many
MattLTH
I'm surprised to hear that. I record with my MG10XU quite frequently, and I can't remember any problems with the recordings or the playback thereof. However, I do have some recommendations to try.

First, make sure you've installed the most current USB driver for that mixer. Here's the download link:

https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/downloads_hardware/yamaha_steinberg_usb_driver.html

Next, verify that you're using a compatible operating system. The most current driver supports Windows 7 through 10 in either 32-bit or 64-bit, while the Mac driver supports 10.9 through 10.12. Legacy versions of the driver can be found lower on the page for XP, Vista, or as low as Mac 10.5.

Next, make sure the mixer is plugged directly into a USB2.0 or 3.0 port on the computer. In other words, do not use a USB hub; make a direct connection to the computer USB port.

Lastly, depending on what software program you're using to record with, make sure you assign the software inputs to the Yamaha USB driver. There will be one for stereo, which (again, depending on the software) can usually be split into two mono inputs (left/right.)

I hope that helps. I assure you, recording with your mixer is absolutely possible.

MattLTH
JDRWales
Configuring the Yamaha MG10XU Mixer

I have successfully configured the MIDI connections via the above and Finale 2006, but for some reason I am now unable to record any online audio via Adobe Audition. I am using the Yamaha Steinberg USB ASIO and DRIVER. Can anyone help out there?
MattLTH
Let me see if I understand correctly. By "online audio", do you mean you're trying to record audio tracks from online sources like podcasts or video files? If so, you may need to look into an online audio solution like SoundFlower. That nifty utility lets you use the internal sound engine of the computer as an audio output source from which you can record from.

If that's not what you're attempting, please provide a little more info about the task you wish to accomplish and I'll do my best to help you.

MattLTH
Stu Hughes
I have been using mine with vocalive on the I pad and it works brilliantly.
JDRWales
Hi Matt and Stu,

Yes, I am trying to record audio from YouTube and BBC iPlayer TV and radio programmes. Up to the time I managed to configure my MIDI feed via the MG10XU and my MOTU Fast Lane interface there was no problem. In the process configuring for MIDI via "Finale2006", I wonder whether I have somehow by-passed the audio feed to Audition 3?

Unfortunately, I'm a muso and not an audio technician so you will have to forgive my ignorance. I'm happy to try any other audio program for recording, so will take a look at SoundFlower. In the meantime, thanks to you both for your responses.
Cheers,
JDRWales

Stu Hughes
Hi Matt
When recording with this mixer and my focusrite i track solo unit to my I pad using vocalive i still keep getting crackling during recording and then playback too. Although when I bounce the track down and email it the crackle disappears. Any ideas. It's not a constant crackle it comes and goes. I am using an old I pad 2. Could it be that possibly.
MattLTH
The iPad 2 is not nearly as powerful as the newer models, at least as far as raw processing power goes. I'd recommend increasing the buffer size of the driver in the iPad to see if that helps. If it does help, but the increased latency makes it more difficult to use, then it might be time to upgrade to a newer iPad.

MattLTH
Stu Hughes
Yes Matt I think I may treat myself to an i pad air. Thanks again
Virgilio
Hi Mr. Matt,
Have a nice day to You...
I have my MG10XU that is connected to my Windows 8.1 with Realtek Sound card which I properly set it up in a good level of recording....My Mic is connected to Mic/Line 1 and a headphone properly connected.My problem is If I do recording in Audacity or even Cubase the level of record is way too low and almost couldnt hear when i playback....Would You mind to teach me a step by step procedure to record using this MG10XU.
MattLTH
Hi Virgilio,

I'll try to help. Let me see if I understand your setup properly. You have a microphone plugged into Mic/Line input 1, then the output of the MG10XU (probably the Stereo Out) is plugged into the Realtek Sound Card? If that's the case, you'll need to make sure the proper gain and level are set on the mixer, and that the Stereo Out knob is turned up enough to send a proper signal level into the sound card. Since I don't know anything about the Realtek sound card, I'm not sure what sort of settings might be configured improperly thereon to result in low recording levels.

Because the MG10XU is capable of working as a sound card, I'd try installing the Yamaha drivers and plugging the mixer directly into the computer via USB. Then configure Audacity (or any other audio program) to use the ASIO driver for the mixer for sound recording and playback. That should insure you get optimal recording levels, and also a better signal-to-noise ratio because you eliminated one extra stop (the Realtek) along the noise highway.

Let me know if any of that helps,

MattLTH
yamaha mx10 recording issue
Hi Matt, I have an m10 xu, and I have a verylow input signal when recording with my at 20 20 in cubase! cheked levels in windows audio devices, and i've tried to turn up all evels on the mixer but still very poor signal.... what should I do?

Thanks,

Marcel
MattLTH
Hi Marcel. I'll do my best to help you solve the problem. Which inputs are you trying to record into, and from what source? (i.e. Keyboard, turntable, guitar, microphone, etc.)

MattLTH
yamaha mx10 recording issue
Hi Matt, thanks in advance. Im recordin an acoustic guitar usina an at2020 conde ser mic. I Connecticut the mic ni input 1, plug phantom and turn the gain at 0db and the level at máximum, also the master level ir the mixer at máximum and the signal ia very poor.
The mic si placed very clase tô the guitar, and ir i turn up the Gaia os the Chanel i get distortion....
MattLTH
I don't know exactly what the problem is, but I have a guess: The AT2020 is a 'side-address' microphone, meaning that it receives signal from the side of the microphone rather than the top. Some people make the mistake of pointing the top of the mic towards the guitar like they would with a handheld mic, but that would result in low signal and bad sound.

Take a look at this photo:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-gHK4Vg7X4M/maxresdefault.jpg

See how the side of the microphone is pointed at the guitar? That's the right way to position the microphone.

To be clear, look at this photo of an AT2020 mic:

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/resource_library/product_images/5cbd5de17b7c365f/med/at2020_1_sq.jpg

THAT is the front side of the microphone that you should point towards the guitar (or any sound source.)

I hope that's helpful,

Matt

Ish
Hi Matt,

I just bought this mixer couple of weeks ago and this is the first mixer I have ever used/owned. I have a quick question. The first 4 channels can be used for microphones but what about the rest ? The rest 6 channels are stereo channels with left and right. Now, if i connect my guitar with a 1/4 inch TS cable to channel 9 and press the red button near the channel 9/10 volume knob, I can get stereo sound through my speakers but what about channel 5-8 and 10 ? Can I get stereo sound from them by plugging in mono inputs ? Is there any way I can get 5 microphone connect to this mixer and a stereo output for my guitar. all of them together ?

Thanks in advance for the support and help.

Best,

Ish
MattLTH
Hi Ish,

You can plug any mono device into inputs 5, 7, and 9 to get sound from both the left and right output channels. However, you must be sure to not plug anything into inputs 6, 8, and 10 because that will split the corresponding channel inputs to stereo with odd-numbered channels sent to the left output only and even-numbered channels to the right output only. Another way to look at it is as a mixer with seven mono inputs, or four mono inputs and three mono or stereo inputs. Those last three inputs can be either mono or stereo depending upon how many connects to plug into the inputs.

I hope that's helpful,

Matt

Doug
Hi, Matt, I'm from Brazil, so sorry for my bad English. You already said that Yamaha MG 10 XU can be used as an audio interface for recording through a daw software. I was using M-Audio Fast Track Pro for my home recordings (eletric and acoustic guitars and vocals, basically, and some midi stuff eventually). I just bought an MG 10 XU. In your oppinion, what`s the best way to record an acoustic guitar (using 2 mics):
1 - mics > fast track pro> computer software
2 – mics >mg 10 xu > computer software
3 - mics > mg 10 xu > fast track pro > computer software

Should I keep the M-Audio Fast Track Pro (2x2) in my set or it is now disposable?
Thank you!
Regards.
Douglas

MattLTH
Hi Douglas,

I think you'll find your #2 scenario to be the best sounding and easiest to set up. I think the Yamaha mic preamps sound better than those found in the Fast Track Pro, too, but that's subjective.

I'd stay away from scenario #3 because you're cluttering the signal flow, and the more devices you have plugged together, the more noise, signal loss, and gain stage adjusting you'll have to make.

Try #2 and see if it provides the sound and setup you need. If it does, you can sell the Fast Track.

I hope that's helpful,

Matt

Kevin
Hi Matt,

Your post is very helpful and really appreciate all the info here. I am just trying to figure out whether I should buy Yamaha MG10XU or Yamaha 12XU.
I need the mixer primarily for stage events like:
1) Feed music to mixer from laptop and then from mixer to QSC K-12 speakers for stage dance performances and keep two mic channels for Emcee as well.
2) Live singing with Karaoke music and my be couple of channels left for Guitar or Violin.
3) Play DJ music from Laptop -> Mixer -> Speakers for a crowd of 300 - 500 people.

For past stage events, I have rented several mixers like Mackie, Yamaha, Allen & Heath, etc. However, I have noticed that the audio recorded using Yamaha has always been richer & crisper. Not sure if it was because the last Yamaha mixer I rented (don't remember the model number) I used RCA Out from Mixer to AUX input to video camera; and the mixer where the audio didn't sound right (Mackie) I used Phone Out from Mixer to AUX inout to video camera.
Thanks.
MattLTH
Hi Kevin,

It depends largely on how many inputs you need, specifically the number of XLR inputs. If you need four or less, the MG10XU will work great. But if you need up to six, the MG12XU might be a better choice.

I think Yamaha makes the best-sounding small mixer on the market. However, I'd recommend staying away from recording out of any headphone output unless there are no other options. That's because the headphone out uses a small amplifier to power the headphones. That amp adds noise to any line level signal, and that will compromise the recording quality.

MattLTH
Juan
Can I connect a turntable directly to the MG20XU mixer? If the answer is yes which port do I use
thx
Juan
MattLTH
The MG20XU does not have dedicated phono inputs. In other words, none of the inputs have an RIAA phono amplifier connected at the input jacks. So if your turntable has its own bullt-in RIAA amplifier, you can plug it into any of the inputs, including the 1/4" and RCA inputs. If your turntable lacks its own amplifier, you'll need to buy an RIAA phono amp for it, and then you can use any inputs.

MattLTH
Sandeep singh
Is yamaha mg10xu record 10 different channels on time in any Daw
MattLTH
No. The recording output to USB is the Stereo Output L and R signal. So you can record any two inputs individually by using the pan controls, or mixes thereof through the Stereo Output.

MattLTH
Mark P
I plan to use this as a small venue and practice PA system, primarily for vocals. I play acoustic guitar with a Fishman dual coil pick up. I have been using a Roland AC-60 for both guitar and mic.

I am thinking about using the balanced outputs from the Roland into 2 of the channels on the MG10xu to get signal from my acoustic, and then run the mic directly into the mixer.

Would I do better to just get a acoustic guitar preamp only? I like the acoustic chorus effect on the Roland, and will be using reverb on the mixer for vocals.

Thoughts?
MattLTH
I think that's a good way to go, especially if you mount the Yamaha on a stand so that you can access the mixer controls easily. As far as the sound quality, I can't say how small or large the improvement will be, but it will be as good or better than what you're used to, especially since you can treat and EQ your vocals separately from the guitar.

MattLTH
Martin
Hi Matt,

I have a MG10XU as well as a UR22. Which provides a better sound quality? I'm doing simple recording (singing using a condenser mic) with a wav soundtrack using Cubase AI. The MG10XU was bought because of the FX effects like reverb, etc.
MattLTH
From a sonic perspective, the MG-series and UR22 have comparable components like the mic preamps, etc. I don't think you could pick one from the other in a blind listening test. But the MG certainly gives you more options and flexibility. It can be a live or recording mixer with EQ and effects, plus be an audio interface, where as the UR22 can't be a mixer, plus all the EQ and effects must be added in the DAW.

MattLTH
Walt
Hi,
I hope all is well. I'm thinking about purchasing this for karaoke purposes. What is the best was (quality wise) to connect this from my laptop? 3.5 jacks or via the usb cable to mixer? OR will a USB audio adapter be of better quality?
Thanks
MattLTH
For quality, I'd recommend connecting the MG to the computer via the built-in USB plug. That provides a completely digital connection between the mixer and laptop. You won't need a USB audio adapter.

MattLTH
chikitin
Hi,

I was wondering how I could connect my external effect to the unit. I appreciate your responses to my questions below:


Q1) In the article we read the input channels to return an external effect processor to the signal path. Can you show me one concrete example of such setup?
Q2) Does this support stereo FX or Mono FX?
Q3) What kind of cable do I need to use for the FX send connect? S/PDIF, regular Balanced 1/4 or Unbalanced 1/4?


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Dennis
Hi Matt, greetings from Greece

Could you please help ?
I am trying to get effects to my monitors or to any of the 1,2,3 auxes on my yamaha mg20xu
So far I cannot unless I route the signal from lets say aux 1 to a channel and then get the effects via aux 2.
However this includes all instruments in the mix which is not desirable.
I would greatly appreciate your comment at your convenience
Thanks
Dennis
Jo Big
hello
i have a yamaha mg 10xu and i try to work with virtual dj , but the sound level is very low
i set line1 to the yamaha mixer

Jo Big
Hi,
I recently hooked up my Yamaha MG10XU and got it to work on Virtual DJ with the usb connection via the mic settings but the main and mic outputs on the program are barely showing up on the programs' vu meters.

I have the computer and VDJ mic volumes for the mixer all the way up, tried several different audio settings from the output, card and input tabs, and have the latest hardware driver installed on the computer, but I still get the low output. I also checked on the VDJ site for anything on Yamaha controller drivers to download, but there isn't any. Is there a way, without having to raise up the db gain on the mixer that would add a ton a hiss, to get the audio up better on the usb side of it?
Can anyone help me on this please?
Saveen Sadanand
Ever since my Wins 10 updated couple of days ago, There seems to be an irritating pop and crackling sound coming out of my speakers, I use the Yamaha MG 10xu as my sound card via USB, and have had no problems previously. Now when i play a Fruity Loops track, it cracks, pops and there is an Audio cut out for a sec and then it comes back....What do i need to check and how to set it right?
Samuel Choi
Hi! I am currently deciding how to set up a home studio in an empty room (with three windows and 2 mirrors that slide to reveal a closet). I am planning to purchase the following:

(1) An Apple Macbook Pro, when the ARM update comes out. I am willing to wait for it.

(2) Rode NT1-A Anniversary Vocal Cardioid Condenser Microphone Package

(3) AKG PERCEPTION 170 Professional Instrumental , 7.40 x 3.50 x 11.30 inches, Sliver Blue - 3101H00410
(a) I am purchasing two of these mics for an acoustic guitar.

(4) Professional Studio Recording Microphone Isolation Shield, Pop Filter ,High density absorbent foam is used to filter vocal. Suitable for Blue Yeti and other condenser microphones (AO-504 With Stand)
(b) I would like to ask whether this shield is compatible with the vocal mic listed on (2)

(5) An electronic drum set (I forgot the name) that has a MIDI output and an R, L/MONO output

(6) For the DAW, I will choose Logic Pro, the latest version, when I purchase the MacBook.

(7) This Yamaha MG10XU 10-Input Stereo Mixer With Effects
(c) Is this compatible with the items listed above? If so, can you please list the types of cables (including the quantity and average length, please) that I need to connect the following items to this USB audio interface? Also, which cable do I need to connect this product to an Apple MacBook?

(8) What is an affordable pair of studio monitors that will pair nicely with this stereo mixer, under $500 in total?

I am mostly confused on what cables and adapters I will need to connect all those mics and mono outputs to the stereo mixer, and what cable I need to connect the stereo mixer to a MacBook pro.

Second, I would like for you to clarify these statements:

(1): Since I am recording with up to two mics at a time (guitar and piano), the stereo mixer will save both recordings from the mics as one track in Logic Pro.

(2): This stereo mixer will save each track to Logic Pro individually since I am only recording one instrument at a time.

Once again, the MAIN thing I am confused about is the wires. Please, please, please help me with choosing the wires that will connect the above instruments and mics to this stereo mixer. I don't know if this is too much to ask, but can you list the links leading to the following products?:

(1) ALL the wires I need, please

(2) Compatible studio monitors
(a) Please list the wires needed to connect this to the stereo mixer

(3) A Recording Microphone Isolation Shield, if the shield I listed all the way above, is not compatible with the microphone I listed. Otherwise, please state clearly that it is compatible, to save me from unnecessary hassle.

I greatly appreciate all your help and support. No pressure, but can you please respond ASAP, because I am in a bit of a rush. Thank you!

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